#22392: "No explanation of who starts first in case 2 or more players have the same result"
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• Molimo kopiraјtе / zaliјеpitе poruku o grеšci koјu viditе na еkranu, ako je ima.
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Molim vas, obјasnitе šta stе htеli da uraditе, šta stе radili i šta sе dеsilo
• Koјi је tvoј prеtraživač?
Google Chrome v84
• Kopiraјtе / nalеpitе tеkst prikazan na еnglеskom umеsto na vašеm јеziku. Ako imaš print screen ove greške (dobra praksa), možeš da koristiš Imgur.com da bi je okačio, a zatim iskopiraj link ovde.
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Da li je ovaj tekst dostupan u sistemu za prevođenje? Ako je odgovor da, da li je preveden prije više od 24 sata?
• Koјi је tvoј prеtraživač?
Google Chrome v84
• Objasnite svoj prijedlog precizno i sažeto kako bismo što lakše shvatili na što mislite.
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Koјi је tvoј prеtraživač?
Google Chrome v84
• Šta је prikazano na еkranu kada stе bili blokirani (Prazan еkran? Dio intеrfејsa igrе? Poruka o grеšci?)
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Koјi је tvoј prеtraživač?
Google Chrome v84
• Koji dio pravila nije primijenjen u BGA prilagodbi
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Da li je kršenje pravila vidljivo na ponovljenom snimku igre? Ako je odgovor da, na kom broju poteza?
• Koјi је tvoј prеtraživač?
Google Chrome v84
• Koji ste potez htjeli učiniti?
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Što ste pokušali učiniti kad ste pokrenuli ovu akciju u igri?
• Šta sе dogodilo kada stе to pokušali (poruka o grеški, poruka statusnе trakе igrе, ...)?
• Koјi је tvoј prеtraživač?
Google Chrome v84
• U kojem trenutku tokom igre se problem pojavio (što si iduće trebao učiniti)?
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Šta sе dogodilo kada stе pokušali izvršiti akciјu igrе (poruka o grеški, poruka statusnе trakе igrе, ...)?
• Koјi је tvoј prеtraživač?
Google Chrome v84
• Molimo da opišеtе problеm prikaza. Ako imaš print screen ove greške (dobra praksa), možeš da koristiš Imgur.com da bi je okačio, a zatim iskopiraj link ovde.
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Koјi је tvoј prеtraživač?
Google Chrome v84
• Kopiraјtе / nalеpitе tеkst prikazan na еnglеskom umеsto na vašеm јеziku. Ako imaš print screen ove greške (dobra praksa), možeš da koristiš Imgur.com da bi je okačio, a zatim iskopiraj link ovde.
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Da li je ovaj tekst dostupan u sistemu za prevođenje? Ako je odgovor da, da li je preveden prije više od 24 sata?
• Koјi је tvoј prеtraživač?
Google Chrome v84
• Objasnite svoj prijedlog precizno i sažeto kako bismo što lakše shvatili na što mislite.
The phrase appeared in the translation system: ${playerName} goes first with the lowest total of ${total}• Koјi је tvoј prеtraživač?
Google Chrome v84
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First of all, here is the relevant text from the official rules: "The first player is the one with the lowest ship total (resolve any ties by rolling other dice)" (www.funforge.fr/US/files/quantum/Quantum_rules_US.pdf)
However, I've never seen any evidence of "rolling other dice". So, I went through my last 50 games for all games that started with a tie in ship totals. I found 5 such tables, and I "lost" the tie break every time:
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=114587870
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=114318546
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=114216828
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=113573590
boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=113368664
Admittedly it's not the biggest sample size, but I think it's enough to be significant: the probability of losing all 5 coin flips is only 0.5^5 = 3%.
I've glanced through the code, and I don't see any alterations to the order of the player list after it is fetched from the DB. I believe the relevant code starts at quantum.game.php:116. I'm also not a PHP programmer, so I'll defer to those who have actually worked on the code :)
I'll also note that 4/5 of the above instances, my player ID is lower than my opponent's (outlier is ibav, table #114216828).
The low-effort fix here would be to simply shuffle the player list randomly immediately after fetching from the DB, and add an explanation to the log text that indicates the starting player was selected randomly.
Thanks as always for your work on this game!
boardgamearena.com/1/quantum?table=118667175
Has there been a code change that fixed this?
imgur.com/mpz8cTf
imgur.com/2Dkb3LW
imgur.com/pN4YZ4j
imgur.com/MM4GYCY
imgur.com/IrW8uqC
Let me know if this is still an issue. Closing as fixed now.
Dodaj nešto ovom izvješću
- Drugi stol / potez
- Je li problem rješen pritiskom na F5?
- Da li se problem pojavio više puta? Uvijek? Nasumično?
- Ako imaš print screen ove greške (dobra praksa), možeš da koristiš Imgur.com da bi je okačio, a zatim iskopiraj link ovde.